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It's not been available a 'long while'And me been debating getting these for a good long while.
It's not been available a 'long while'
I'm waiting for the price to stabilise, although I did see an interesting price advertised today, but no stock.
I know exactly what this product costs from the factory and I also know exactly what they will eventually be sold for on Ebay, by Honk Hong sellers who don't pay any taxes of any kind and who won't provide any form of warranty or any other after sales service - the price will be a smidgeon under £500.I will go into more detail as I use it but unfortunately can not set time aside at present to test. This was £500 from EBay and my yest be subject to customs (there are sellers out there offering for £500 from UK who are waiting for stock to arrive) but I need to test asap as it will determine my kit bag for a number of jobs.
Mike
Yes, there are UK based sellers who say that they will be selling it for £500, but if they do so and they are paying VAT, then they will be losing money on the sales, so what will be the value of any warranty, even if they actually have the resources to repair them?I will go into more detail as I use it but unfortunately can not set time aside at present to test. This was £500 from EBay and my yest be subject to customs (there are sellers out there offering for £500 from UK who are waiting for stock to arrive) but I need to test asap as it will determine my kit bag for a number of jobs.
Mike
This might come as a surprise but the AD600 has a Guide Number of 87 and the AD360 has 85 so about the same power.
I have just done some manual full power tests and it is right, very little difference.
I then used manual HSS up to 1/8000 and again very similar.
Lastly I tried on TTL and both consistent but past 1/5000 they both seem to be 1/3 to 1/2 stop underexposed.
Mike
This might come as a surprise but the AD600 has a Guide Number of 87 and the AD360 has 85 so about the same power.
I have just done some manual full power tests and it is right, very little difference.
I then used manual HSS up to 1/8000 and again very similar.
Lastly I tried on TTL and both consistent but past 1/5000 they both seem to be 1/3 to 1/2 stop underexposed.
Mike
No I just used a standard reflector for this initial test but will run a better test next week.Mike, did you compare exactly like for like? Eg same double-diffuser softbox, at exactly same distance? What was the difference in stops?
Always find it nuts how people on a budget insist on buying dodgy chinese imports loaded with notional features that will never be used, but completely overlook the second hand market for simpler designed but higher quality branded products.
Always find it nuts how people on a budget insist on buying dodgy chinese imports loaded with notional features that will never be used, but completely overlook the second hand market for simpler designed but higher quality branded products.
See my updated testing, I found the stop of lightI didn't expect a doubling of power but a "little difference" would be disappointing
How easily does the Selens assemble? the Ebay page just says 'easy to assemble'See my updated testing, I found the stop of light
Mike
Will that stop be consistent when you get to HSS too (which is the only reason I'd consider this over my current kit)?See my updated testing, I found the stop of light
Mike
So an office test of the AD360II compared to the AD600 both fitted to a Selens deep Octa and now we see the difference of 1 stop, at the point I was measuring the 360 gave f4 and the 600 f5.6
This goes to show that the reflectors affected my initial tests and IMHO that the standard reflector on the AD360 is highly optimised.
The softbox fitted easily and I can see no issues using with the X1 triggers. Awaiting good weather to use outside.
@HoppyUK - much happier now that I have tested this way
Mike
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Thanks Mike, good to know
I got mine today too so came back to read this thread and glad you've updated it Mike. I've literally just took it out of the box and used the only softbox I have that will fit both. A Godox 60cm x 60cm. I had to hold it in front of the AD600 since I need a new bracket so it's not the most scientific test in the world at the moment either.See my updated testing, I found the stop of light
Mike
Did you expect them to be different? HSS at 1:1 is just a full power dump spread over loads of smaller pops. Recycle time claim is 2.5 secs at 1:1 - seems about right.
Mike, can you try something for me? Can you try to remotely adjust the TTL flash compensation on the X1-T controller? Does the AD600 accept it?
I've tried it on mine and the AD600 ignores it. I can only bring the flash power down to 1/128 using the X1-T but the AD600 goes to 1/256 which is a shame.