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With the proceeds I bought a Canon 7, Canon P and a couple of lenses. In terms of handling they are much more convenient than the Leica and they are very well made and solid. The lenses have reputation for being pretty good as well according to my research. I did keep my Leica 90mm Elmar to use with the Canon bodies.
They look great - congratulations on your purchases. What are they like to shoot with?
 

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Since I had my cataracts fixed I've found it a struggle to operate some of my cameras. The Leica IIIA was the hardest because all the controls have tiny engravings. I got fed of up constantly having to switch between spectacles and no spectacles when I was using it (it was almost impossible to frame pictures with spectacles on). So just before Christmas I decided to sell it off and buy an alternative which was easier to operate. The Leica went for a decent price and at the same time I managed to sell off a Yashica Electro. With the proceeds I bought a Canon 7, Canon P and a couple of lenses. In terms of handling they are much more convenient than the Leica and they are very well made and solid. The lenses have reputation for being pretty good as well according to my research. I did keep my Leica 90mm Elmar to use with the Canon bodies.
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I got the camera bodies and lenses from the ebay seller eljaybe2018, he seems to specialise more or less in Canon rangefinders if you look at his ebay shop. I've also ordered a 135mm Canon lens from MW Classics. I'm a bit worried because I haven't received it yet but the money has been taken from my Paypal account. I'll have to harass them next week as I ordered it about three weeks ago.
It might be worth dropping them a line or a quick phone call, I ordered a couple of things from them before Christmas and he managed to get them posted out to me so they arrived in time. I know people have had some problems and to be fair I nearly alway go to their premises and collect, but they’re generally very well priced and I’ve never had a problem if I’ve had to return something. I think the positives outweigh the negatIves. (Apologies for the unnecessary pun)
 
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Lots easier to use than the Leica. Both have nice big viewfinders. The 7 has projected frames for different focal lengths selected by a dial and the viewfinder is also parallax corrected. So there is no need for auxilliary viewfinders. The P has a simplified viewfinder, still parallax corrected, with frame lines for different focal lengths which aren't individually selectable. The cameras don't have rotating shutter speed dials or slow speed dials and loading is much easier as they have hinged backs. They are both a comfortable size, not as discreet as the Leica of course. From the shooting point of view I can't praise them enough.
 
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Re: MW Classic, I’ve ordered quite a bit from them over the years (two lenses, a Leica M3, an external finder, a 6x12 roll film holder) and they’ve generally been quite quick aside from the film holder where I had to remind them it needed to be sent otherwise I’d just get PayPal to issue a refund.
 

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Years ago I owned a similar style drop plate camera in quater plate format ( houghton butcher). It was large, heavy and cumbersome in use although the lens did offer a good sharp contrasty image.
i sold it due to the not so easily available filmand the fact that I was, at the time , more into roll film formats and cameras.
Since returning into LF as a ole format for my togging, I have had the occasional yearn to adopt a detective camera, basically the same as the houghton but 9x12 format and of course French / European.
Much as they can be found in excellent condition, they demand a hig price ( for a box camera!).
The majority that become available even at a moderate cost usually have faults or lack the plate holders.

Anyway I came across this one :
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Dating back to circa 1900, it is for its age in vgc.

The lens is clean with no fungus.
The sliding lens protector is present and functions correctly.
The viewfinders are reasonable, a little breaking up of the mirror silver I think but perfectly usable and let’s be honest they were never great for seeing through back in the day anyway.
The diaphragm is smooth ( adjuster located above the lens) and offers apertures from f/8 to f/64 interestingly marked in two stop increments.
The shutter cocks and fires just fine using the arme key to cock it . The shutter release being located alongside with P and I modes.
Even the fastest shutter speed of 1/60 sounds to be spot on!!!
The shutter speeds can be made slower using the knob on the side which effectively slows the guillotine speed quite literally by a brake like system.
The half moon configuration of numbers relate to focus distance min 2.5 meters ( about 8ft) through to 20meters...... after that with the aperture stopped down and brings infinity into focus.
This mechanism is a tad stiff to operate but it is functional and may simply need cleaning.
There are two bubble levels, both intact although only one appears to work.
The other panel on the side near the rear of the camera with a key like attachment is the mechanism for dropping the exposed plate inside the camera.
There is a frame counter 1-12......unbelievable that it still works flawlessly after more than a century.
There are however only 8 plate holders remaining with this camera.
The interns need a good clean and the holders require treating before use of which I have suitable products so it shouldn’t be long before I get chance to try obtain an exposure on film, bah no, not film why I use film when the j lane glass plates are available in 9x12....... what better way to give this camera a new lease of life than to use glass plates like it was destined for well over a century ago :)
The policeman ( Detective :LOL: ) has survived its overhaul...... probably its first in its long life, and is ready to take an exposure.
Cleaned up, the focusing mechanism etc moves freely, the ´braké fir the shutter speeds has been adjusted and the rusty areas of the interns and the plate holders have been treated.

‘Thé viewfinders i have left alone, one is cleaner/ clearer than the other and tbh the fact that the two viewfinders both offer the exact same 28mm square composure, I wonder why there is a portrait and landscape orientation available.
Also why a square composure when 9x12cm plate / film size is far from square?!!

Abyway although the incorrect format, I tentatively tried the edge of the exposed J Lane plate that I have and once I get the correct size purchased, I could well be having some fun.
In the meantime , to test for lightightness ( the rear door felt looks good) , I am going to cut some paper down to size to use as negs.
A little bit of packing may be needed to account for the thickness difference to plates .

Seeing as the drop plate mechanism works fine I may load all 8 holders .
With plates, I doubt more than a couple of a time.
The beauty is that the camera will function with any number of holders installed up to its original maximum of 12.
This is something that Grafmatics won’t do, they require all six septums to be in place for the holder mechanism to work properly.

Edit, barring one bubble level that is clouded over and unusable, the only thing that doesn’t work sadly, is the air shutter release. It is a shame but no surprise as behind the front panelwhich I am not going to remove, is a small leather air sack which when filled with air using a Bulb attachment attached to the nipper on the side of the camera, would operate the shutter.
Exposures will possibly be a challenge at times but it will be interesting and fun I reckon.

Édit Édit:Weight with 8 empty holders 1.9kg so a couple of kilos loaded with plates.

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Postman just delivered the makings for Cyanotypes, perhaps a series called 'Lockdown Blues'
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Finally got round to mixing some of the chems, coating a bit of paper and exposing through a rather thin digital negative as the 2 UVA 8W LED bulbs just arrived, Fitted them to my old copy stand. Put the neg in a nice old wooden half plate printing frame.

One Goth feeling blue. (reminder try 15 mins exposure not 20 and a denser negative)

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Took the plunge on some more glass plates in the larger formats of 5x7 and 10x8.

9x12cm plates for the refurbished detective camera will wait until I order again as I haven’t yet been able to test the functionality of the camera with paper negs.

Of course if I’m to shoot more plates then a purpose drying rack had to be a must have ;)

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Took the plunge on some more glass plates in the larger formats of 5x7 and 10x8.

Of course if I’m to shoot more plates then a purpose drying rack had to be a must have ;)
I hate to ask how much the plates cost - I recently saw the price of some 5x4 film and nearly fell over.

Nice drying rack!
 

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I hate to ask how much the plates cost - I recently saw the price of some 5x4 film and nearly fell over.

Nice drying rack!
iirc the 5x4 plates work out at about 4.50 euros each so about 4 quid.
Thé 10x8 are like 15 quid a piece .

Sheet film as you found out can have a high price tag but don’t forget that a 5x4 neghas a surface area equivalent to approx 14 times that of a 35mm neg.
The prices simply relate to that.
LF isn’t actually more expensive than smaller formats.
The kit can be had at a price often less than that of some 35mm and MF outfits.
The film does work out more costly for each exposure but LF isn’t about taking several frames each outing..... I often take no more than one and can be out all day wandering around.
Like film photography in general is a completely different experience in many ways to digital, so is LF when compared to other formats.
 
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Finally, after a wait during which the trees which provided the plywood were grown, my intrepid has arrived. At first inspection, seems pretty much what I expected. I'm liking the inbuilt spirit levels, though I'm not convinced how reliable they will be. Fixing the front riser is a bit fiddly, though when I get it on a tripod that may improve.

Everything seems to be there, and in roughly the correct place, lens/lens board fits and with the aperture wide open I could vaguely see something in the ground glass. If it ever gets light again that will hopefully improve too :)

dark slides slot in nicely with no movement, and the magnets are all there for the rotation between landscape and portrait formats

I'll have a proper mess if it ever stops blowing a blizzard so i can retrieve my tripod from the car

Order placed for stearman dev tank and associated chemicals, sometime in the next 2 or 3 weeks I hope to have a negative. Then I just need to make a decision on the method of digitising and there may even be a picture!!
 

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Finally, after a wait during which the trees which provided the plywood were grown, my intrepid has arrived. At first inspection, seems pretty much what I expected. I'm liking the inbuilt spirit levels, though I'm not convinced how reliable they will be. Fixing the front riser is a bit fiddly, though when I get it on a tripod that may improve.

Everything seems to be there, and in roughly the correct place, lens/lens board fits and with the aperture wide open I could vaguely see something in the ground glass. If it ever gets light again that will hopefully improve too :)

dark slides slot in nicely with no movement, and the magnets are all there for the rotation between landscape and portrait formats

I'll have a proper mess if it ever stops blowing a blizzard so i can retrieve my tripod from the car

Order placed for stearman dev tank and associated chemicals, sometime in the next 2 or 3 weeks I hope to have a negative. Then I just need to make a decision on the method of digitising and there may even be a picture!!
I carry a tiny plastic spirit level as one of the the levels on my 10x8 is I’m sure not set correctly but also depending on the height / position of camera, if the rear standard needs to be redressed vertically ( for architecture), i am simply too short to see the built in levels .
If I was to have the camera low enough to view them then I would need Nick @RaglanSurf :pto help compose on the groundglass so that I don’t break my back crouching down.:LOL:

Fixing the front standard never poses me a problem but I only have small hands / fingers so perhaps if you have shovel hands, getting into the limited space to turn the wing nut may well be more awkward.
If the rise/fall mechanism is a tad stiff, polish the metal uprights with mr sheen or similar. ( Same product is excellent for stiff darkslides too)

Operating a a LF camera is always more practical / easier on a tripod;)
 

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good tip on the spirit level @Asha, can you hire sherpas in the UK? all this gear to carry....
You ain’t gunna get much lighter than an intrepid !
A bit of bulk to carry perhaps though I’ve seen other non LF togs carry much more!
Worth it in my opinion especially if you intend to print large.
Sherpas / porters / assistants are generally unreliable..... I had one ( a partner) who was never around when I needed her most :LOL:
 

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I use a (now discontinued) Billingham photographers' waistcoat to carry filters, exposure meters, loupe,film holders, cable release (and all the normal stuff like wallet, keys, phone, pen etc.). I then either add a backpack for camera, lens(es), tripod and focussing cloth, or just sling the cloth over my shoulder and use my hands.

I switched to LF because it was lighter - seriously!
 
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