OFFICIAL I HAVE A NEW (FILM RELATED) TOY THREAD!!

BTW the last video is marked private or is that the 'Art' home movie. ;)

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Should work now.

I love that it's tatty. Showed it's lived a life and (just about) survived. I almost hate to see things in pristine condition. Unless I'm buying them,

I know my BIL has found a lot of the films and the projector and has already had some of it going.
 
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Saw the film loader, looked almost new and boxed for 25 quid so snapped it up
Potassium Bromide to make my Pyrocat HD
and a couple of grey card kits to help with my Reflectance metering.

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With the second bulk Film loader I had to get another roll of film. Has anyone had any luck swapping rolls in and out of the bulk loader.

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With the second bulk Film loader I had to get another roll of film. Has anyone had any luck swapping rolls in and out of the bulk loader.
There's no reason why you shouldn't do it with your Watson.

Just use a changing bag or a totally blacked out area. On the other hand, when I was using bulk film, it was less of a nuisance to get enough empty cassettes to consume a whole roll. Once the loader was empty, I put the different film in.
 
With the second bulk Film loader I had to get another roll of film. Has anyone had any luck swapping rolls in and out of the bulk loader.

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I've not tried, but I would expect it's pretty straightforward. Just retract the piece of film protruding to the cassette loading section (or cut it off), then lift the remaining film out and put it back in its light-tight bag and tin. All in complete darkness, of course.

Is your new bulk loader a Watson 100? That's the one I have.
 
I've not tried, but I would expect it's pretty straightforward. Just retract the piece of film protruding to the cassette loading section (or cut it off), then lift the remaining film out and put it back in its light-tight bag and tin. All in complete darkness, of course.

Is your new bulk loader a Watson 100? That's the one I have.
That's the one NIgel, Watson 100.

A complete bargain, I paid a 100 quid for the other one then a mint watson pops up for 25 quid, just my luck that !

HAve you had any issues with it? watched a couple utubes and it looks straightforward
 
With the second bulk Film loader I had to get another roll of film. Has anyone had any luck swapping rolls in and out of the bulk loader.

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Think I'd look at it on a risk/reward basis. If bulk loaders are much cheaper than a roll of bulk film then it's better to have one per film and label the loader with the film inside. That way once it's in there's far less chance of a mishap. If you start swapping then it's easier to accidentally knacker a whole roll or just forget which one you have in as I've you've swapped them around a bit too much.

I can barely fumble a roll of 35mm into a developing spool so could not be trusted to operate a bulk loader without disaster :)
 
There's no reason why you shouldn't do it with your Watson.

Just use a changing bag or a totally blacked out area. On the other hand, when I was using bulk film, it was less of a nuisance to get enough empty cassettes to consume a whole roll. Once the loader was empty, I put the different film in.

Thanks Andrew,

Whats the most I could squeek out of a cassett, I was thinking I might try for 40?
 
Think I'd look at it on a risk/reward basis. If bulk loaders are much cheaper than a roll of bulk film then it's better to have one per film and label the loader with the film inside. That way once it's in there's far less chance of a mishap. If you start swapping then it's easier to accidentally knacker a whole roll or just forget which one you have in as I've you've swapped them around a bit too much.

I can barely fumble a roll of 35mm into a developing spool so could not be trusted to operate a bulk loader without disaster :)

They are really quite simple Suz, you would be surprised the hardest part is feeding the end of the roll through the gate, after that you are done.
 
That's the one NIgel, Watson 100.

A complete bargain, I paid a 100 quid for the other one then a mint watson pops up for 25 quid, just my luck that !

HAve you had any issues with it? watched a couple utubes and it looks straightforward
It's pretty straightforward, but there is still room to make mistakes. I loaded three full rolls forgetting to rotate the light trap after inserting the cassette and closing the cassette door, meaning the film scraped across the plastic and was full of scratches. :(


Whats the most I could squeek out of a cassett, I was thinking I might try for 40?

I had 41 full frames from my last roll, but it's probably camera dependent - that was with my Olympus XA-3 which is tiny and you can get away with drawing less film from the cassette when loading it.
 
Got a couple of boxes of 4x5 film to try out with my Fomapan 100 and FP4, I will shoot a few and see which type I like the look of best.

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Got this Minolta 600 SI Classic for a song.

Apart from the grip (which was missing - thread about that here) it looked in pretty good nick.

Half way through some film so will finish that off and see.

Also picked up this light meter from the same seller.


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Vivitar 35 by Kell, on Flickr

And this is a better pic of the XG-M


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Got this Minolta 600 SI Classic for a song.

Apart from the grip (which was missing - thread about that here) it looked in pretty good nick.

Half way through some film so will finish that off and see.

Also picked up this light meter from the same seller.


Minolta 600 Si Classic by Kell, on Flickr


Vivitar 35 by Kell, on Flickr

And this is a better pic of the XG-M


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Whilst I do like a Weston I find I tend to grab a light meter with a simple, straight forward layout like your Vivitar. Handy little battery free things.
 
Whilst I do like a Weston I find I tend to grab a light meter with a simple, straight forward layout like your Vivitar. Handy little battery free things.
Not had a chance to really use it yet, but I was a bit concerned about the internal light meter on my SRT101. The seller actually included it for free with the XG-M as I bought several things from her.
 
This is a lens you don't see everyday. A Minolta 100mm F4 macro bellows, only for use an automatic bellows or extention tubes. This one is permanantly set to F32 as the taking apature as it came off a "specialised" imaging system.
I have a couple more snaps of this lens on my FB page if anyone's interested.
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Minolta SR-7 and two (more) lenses.

I found an eBay seller that had tonnes of Minolta kit. And bought a fair bit.

I kept holding off buying this - even though I kept looking at it.

And looking at it.

Did a little bit more research and realised that it's historically significant as it was the worlds first camera with a built-in light-meter.

The meter is on the left shoulder of the camera - so doesn't meter through the lens - but then that's no different to using a separate light-meter.

Took the plunge.

Arrived yesterday. Put a new battery in it for the meter and it appears to be reading correctly.

Will eventually get some film in it and test it properly.

Came with an ARII 55/1.8 and a MCII 135/2.8.

ETA - the cold shoe looks home made.


Minolta SR-7 by Kell, on Flickr


Minolta Auto-Rokkor (ARII) 55 f/1.8 by Kell, on Flickr


Minolta MCII Tele-Rokkor - PF 135 f/2.8 by Kell, on Flickr
 
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It's a Minolta captain but not as we know it Jim!

I posted an image of a Minolta 100mm F4 Macro Bellows lens a few days ago and mentioned it came from a "specialised" system. Well here is the whole device (save the power supply unit. It's mains powered only). If it wasn't obvious it was used as a part of medical screening programs in the '80's. There are a few more photos of it on my FB page if you are interested.



One minor facet of note is the data back can display any date including today date with the 2026 year which few data backs from this period can do. In this system it is used however as a simple frame counter.
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Reading Adams book, he was not averse to using 6x6. I only have the fixed lens Kershaw in 6x6. I looked around for the best bang for the buck, as usual, and ended up with this.

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I was excited at getting my hand's on some fantastic glass.

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I must say that I have only seen optical quality with layered separation like this lens twice in my life, fist time was on a pair of Swarovski binoculars and the second a couple of weeks ago on @Ian Grant 8x10, with I think, an F3 lens.

All shutter speeds seem out, probably down to the 43yr old lubricants, and my device will not register, whether that is because its a horizontal shutter I don't know. Other than that it looks new with no marks at all from regular use, incredible for a 1983 camera.
 
Reading Adams book, he was not averse to using 6x6. I only have the fixed lens Kershaw in 6x6. I looked around for the best bang for the buck, as usual, and ended up with this.

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I was excited at getting my hand's on some fantastic glass.

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I must say that I have only seen optical quality with layered separation like this lens twice in my life, fist time was on a pair of Swarovski binoculars and the second a couple of weeks ago on @Ian Grant 8x10, with I think, an F3 lens.

All shutter speeds seem out, probably down to the 43yr old lubricants, and my device will not register, whether that is because its a horizontal shutter I don't know. Other than that it looks new with no marks at all from regular use, incredible for a 1983 camera.
Interesting , the lens looks much newer than the ones I remember on the Penacon six, quite an under rated camera and system in the UK.
 
Interesting , the lens looks much newer than the ones I remember on the Penacon six, quite an under rated camera and system in the UK.
I liked mine but I have heard of a couple of people who had problems with the shutters on theirs. Luck of the draw I suppose.
 
Interesting , the lens looks much newer than the ones I remember on the Penacon six, quite an under rated camera and system in the UK.

I have read that one of the reasons that the system is not as popular is, besides the anti German sentiment back in the day, due to the fact that they were not stocked by many of the camera shops as they were too cheap and the margin was not as great as on other medium format systems. The shop would have rather guided a customer towards more expensive systems where they generated more profit. Also the lack of a mirror lock up would have crossed it off many lists.
I liked mine but I have heard of a couple of people who had problems with the shutters on theirs. Luck of the draw I suppose.
Many of the problems seem to be centered around the film transport mechanism as a whole from the loading procedure of the film which if carried out without due care creates many reports of overlapping frames. To the operation of the advance lever whereby the lever must be returned under constant pressure and cannot be allowed to just slap back into position.

I ran a test roll through it yesterday to check for any abuse of the winding mechanism and thankfully all seems fine, spacing is a tiny bit inconsistent but no cause for alarm. I suppose every manual camera has it's own idiosyncrasies and set of conditions under which it must be operated for best effect.

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Scene Ev 7.4 taken on 1999 expired Pan F, Ei 50, I thought that the slow shutter would allow for any exposure adjustment required for the film and of course I was proved correct with a better exposure than if I had used an "everything perfect" camera. :ROFLMAO:
 
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I have read that one of the reasons that the system is not as popular is, besides the anti German sentiment back in the day, due to the fact that they were not stocked by many of the camera shops as they were too cheap and the margin was not as great as on other medium format systems.
I don't remember either of those being true at the time.

My memory is that, from the 1960s, both East German and Soviet cameras were selling very successfully, in London at least. My first serious camera was a Pentacon FM, a rebadged Contax SLR from the company that made the Praktica and Praktina ranges.

None of the East German cameras in the 1960s were that well made but their 35mm replacements, the "L series", which first appeared in 1969, were a much better proposition and the improvement in standards seems to have crept into later versions of the Pentacon Six
The shop would have rather guided a customer towards more expensive systems where they generated more profit.
Money was still pretty tight in Britain in the 1960s, when the Praktisix morphed into the Pentacon Six. They sold, if not like hot cakes, certainly like warm buttered scones! :)
Also the lack of a mirror lock up would have crossed it off many lists.
It wouldn't be a problem for the majority of buyers. At that time, the only medium format camera with an instant return mirror was the Bronica S2, so far as I know. Hasselblad 500C and 500CM "went black" when you pressed the release.
Many of the problems seem to be centered around the film transport mechanism as a whole from the loading procedure of the film which if carried out without due care creates many reports of overlapping frames. To the operation of the advance lever whereby the lever must be returned under constant pressure and cannot be allowed to just slap back into position.
Yes, film winding was the Praktisix / Pentacon Six's Achilles heel. Allegedly, this was solved with the Exakta 66 variant that was made in West Germany.
 
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Money was still pretty tight in Britain in the 1960s, when the Praktisix morphed into the Pentacon Six. They sold, if not like hot cakes, certainly like warm buttered scones! :)
And for longer for some. My mum had a Zenit 35mm in the late 70's as a western made SLR was out of reach financially. It did her well for a number of years.
 
Just sent off the body for CLA. I must be getting better, I would have just soldiered on Previously. I am also sick of crap film.
 
Sigma 18mm f2.8 Filtermatic lens in Canon FD breech lock mount, £15, including caps and hood! Shown here on my A1 body. It has built in filters which are engaged by twisting a ring on the front of the lens.

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The seller described it as having problems but as far as I can see it's basically very sound. Time will tell when I've used it I suppose.
 
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And here is a real oddity, a Peak Cine hand cranked 16mm film projector. No films with it unfortunately and it needs a bit of TLC, not quite sure if it is all there although the main parts are OK.

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I bought it simply because I wanted the lantern slides which came with it. Maybe the seller though that the slides were to use with it but that isn't the case, they are 19th century and made for some sort of children's lantern slide projector. Whereas this is probably 1950's; the box has pictures of the coronation coach and HRH QE2 on horseback trooping the colour.

No excuse for not getting it up and running: https://optical-toys.com/index.php/de/detailansicht/PEL-PEAK-001-1.html
 
I read that this book was a synopsis of all three of Adams instruction series, so thought for a fiver why not. In excellent condition, basically unread hardback with plastic dust jacket. I have almost finished "the negative" so this might put that book into context seeing as I don't yet have the others.

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