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Thank All it was a good day out.
I went for Black Far less noticeable, I like to merge.......
I went for Black Far less noticeable, I like to merge.......
Just been taking a few photos out and about and at home, with the X10. Been shooting on RAW, now to convert them. I only have the Silkypix that came with the camera, I don't even know where to start
It is certainly doable. Howevr silkypix is both difficult to understand and hard to use. But it gives very good results.
Any recent version of photoshop or elements or lightroom is far easier.
looks like you have a fairly steep learning curve in front of you. So good luck.....
Will also have a look at that option.If desperate, you can also convert RAW to JPEG in-camera.
If I do use Sillypix I will have no idea it is what I am doing, so looks a little tricky to be getting consistent results
Will also have a look at that option.
Oh well off to the dark room, or it's digital equivalent
Just converted a couple of images using Silkypix, and the results varied. It's a case of moving sliders and drop down menus with things such as, Standard Colour, Memory colour1, 2,3 Film colour V1,V2,P,A,K etc, and loads more setting. No idea what some relate to.The main problem with silkypix is that every control works differently to all other raw processors. So even photoshop "experts" are Flummoxed, and out of their comfort zone.
Starting in as a new boy, from scratch, does not put you in much of a disadvantage. Like most things computer just dive in and see what happens...It will be an experience anyway.
I have had zero instruction in any computer stuff. But learnt though doing...when I started out there was almost no one to ask about anything.
But I was expected to "computerise" my department and every thing we did... that was how it went right up to retirement...it is no different now.
Just converted a couple of images using Silkypix, and the results varied. It's a case of moving sliders and drop down menus with things such as, Standard Colour, Memory colour1, 2,3 Film colour V1,V2,P,A,K etc, and loads more setting. No idea what some relate to.
Well it's digital, and I am not wasting any film so I will plod on and see what I end up with
I will have a look at those you mentioned alsoLightroom is a far more affordable way of converting your RAWs, and it catalogues your images.
I only edit them in Photoshop when I need to do something complicated (usually exposure blending). It's not 'that' complicated, I could probably manage just fine with GIMP (free image editing).
I'm afraid that is easy to answer....
For the X10, the Adobe RAW converters don't do as good a job as the Fuji ones (in camera or Silkypix).
If you read back through this thread you will find a lot of X10 users only take JPEGs as the straight out of the camera results are so good.
Auto white balance on the X10 is excellent and way better than my big Canons, so rarely need to correct; so no real advantage in taking RAW for this.
My personal preference on the X10 was to take RAW mainly because the shadow recovery is something rather special and very useful.
But occasionally I'd get an image with the wrong shade of blue sky and the Adobe RAW converters couldn't do it justice.
Other than that annoying wibble, the X10 RAWs result in very neutral tones which are a great start to post processing; but aren't anything as like as vibrant as and appealing as JPEGs straight out the camera.
It comes down to what you want to do and what your preferred workflow is.
Try learning how to get the best out of JPEGs, you may like it and decide to stick with them.
Just wondering I know the Fuji X20 and X3O have identical sensors but has anyone who owned both seen any difference in quality of photos. I am thinking maybe with processing / firmware difference if any ?
Thank you Terry - that is very helpful.
I am just about ready to buy an X30 (have it in basket at DigitalRev) but now I have seen the Sony A5000 at a good price
I need to stop looking around but the A5000 also seems like a very capable camera BUT it has no viewfinder and I think macro work is limited with the kit lens. Suppose its just how good it is in low light
No viewfinder and very ugly with a lens attached. The only thing to recommend it might be the sensor size which may or may not give better low light performance, as it has rather slow lenses, so you are forced to use higher ISO settings. not my cup of tea at all.
I'm afraid that is easy to answer....
For the X10, the Adobe RAW converters don't do as good a job as the Fuji ones (in camera or Silkypix).
If you read back through this thread you will find a lot of X10 users only take JPEGs as the straight out of the camera results are so good.
Auto white balance on the X10 is excellent and way better than my big Canons, so rarely need to correct; so no real advantage in taking RAW for this.
My personal preference on the X10 was to take RAW mainly because the shadow recovery is something rather special and very useful.
But occasionally I'd get an image with the wrong shade of blue sky and the Adobe RAW converters couldn't do it justice.
Other than that annoying wibble, the X10 RAWs result in very neutral tones which are a great start to post processing; but aren't anything as like as vibrant as and appealing as JPEGs straight out the camera.
It comes down to what you want to do and what your preferred workflow is.
Try learning how to get the best out of JPEGs, you may like it and decide to stick with them.
X30 is pretty darned good in low light.
Combination of a decent aperture, outstanding OIS and usable images from ISO 800 can result in shots from a room lit by a single candle.
Here's some examples I posted a couple of pages back.
https://www.talkphotography.co.uk/t...0-xf1-xq1-thread.499399/page-264#post-6965753
There are limits though...
In festival dance venues, even my big camera struggles at f1.4 and ISO 25600; X30 is not much use in there!
Film simulation is JPEG only.
There's very little reason to shoot RAW on the X10 apart from shadow and highlight recovery; and the DR modes seem to do a pretty good job of that too!
I always shot RAW, but I got the feeling I was in the minority.
If you do decide to shoot RAW, make sure the Auto DR function doesn't end up raising the ISO without your knowledge.
Note: This applies to all the X## models. My X30 is set to DR100 to make sure this doesn't happen.
Yes those are great examples that show how good it is. I suppose I am just wanting to make sure before I buy as digitalrev have a 15% restocking fee if I open box and it looks like I could not return at all if I tried the camera
Have you asked them for their best price? I saved some money that way.
Film simulation is JPEG only.
There's very little reason to shoot RAW on the X10 apart from shadow and highlight recovery; and the DR modes seem to do a pretty good job of that too!
I always shot RAW, but I got the feeling I was in the minority.
If you do decide to shoot RAW, make sure the Auto DR function doesn't end up raising the ISO without your knowledge.
Note: This applies to all the X## models. My X30 is set to DR100 to make sure this doesn't happen.
Photoshop now offers Raw film simulation for X20 and X30 in the processor, so you can now have it, as shot, or as an alternative choice when processing. However I am not sure if it works with the x10 but it might????
I always shoot with colour set to standard now, as I know I can change my mind later.
Ah - yes - you are right - Silkypix does do film simulation from RAW, Adobe doesn't.
I have LR6 - presume you means a generic film simulation, kind of a preset thing?Ý
Adobe cc does for x20 and x30 I have not checked x10.
Maybe this story will help make your mind up about the X30
Tomorrow I'm off photographing another 'step in stone' arts trail installation day.
The images will be used for publicity by both the event and the artistes. It's a big deal for Somerset and some of the artistes are internationally known; the images have to be top quality.
I'll only be taking the X30 plus a big aperture telephoto on the DSLR; either the 135 f2 or 100-400, not made my mind up yet.
I've absolutely no worry that the X30 images will be good enough.
Here's a link to an A4 poster for the event - the main image was taken on the X30. It looks flippin brilliant printed large!
https://www.facebook.com/9580155408...015540879369/1091433454204243/?type=1&theater
The fairies are modified ants and the brief was to capture a photo showing them emerging into the quarry landscape.
The shot was hand-held in super-macro, aperture priority mode to force a decent depth of field, auto everything else.
LOL - actually I believe any camera is what you make of it, not how good the camera is.
But the X30 has helped me rather than put up a fight.
For the money I reckon there still isn't much better around.