WAMT....what annoyed me today!

This morning my wife was placing an online order for ready-made meals which we freeze and use as a back-up. .They vary from £4.50 to ££6.70 so good quality and which would be difficult to replicate. On the company’s FB page there was an offer link for a 20% discount on an order over £50. At the same time delivery on orders over £50 is free. The order with that discount took the value below the £50 threshold to £40.30 so at the checkout £7.99 was added for delivery. The saving would be..65p.
 
Good discription


ABD - Talivan
abd.org.uk/talivan.htm
A Talivan — A van containing one or more speed cameras used for the purpose of ruthlessly extorting money from drivers, a practice based upon a fanatical belief in 'speed' being the cause of all road accidents. Terrorize drivers into gorping mindlessly at their speedometer instead of …
 
I love these discounts, where they "get you" one way or another :D

It is annoying. When I see supermarket discounts or the larger pack of whatever with the price in the red/yellow colour they have for ‘great buys’ I look at the per 100gms price to see if it really is a ‘bargain’ or at least in the case of supersize, saving money. Sometimes I have to get down on my knees to lower shelving to read the very small print so with some customers seeing me like this and giving me a funny look I explain and they always agree that it’s the right thing to do. I’ve seen these supersize items at 1p more than buying two regular- sized packs and worse, being able to buy two regular size not discounted for quite a bit less less than the supersized item. I have a box of nuts/sultanas..too handy to be honest..lol. In it are redskin peanuts, walnuts and sultanas. Buy the walnuts in the home baking aisle and they're .say..£2.40 a bag. Pick them up them from the 'nuts' shelving on the way in they're £2.20. Exactly the same. If I see someone picking them up in home-baking I tell them..lol. As you'll be aware ,they are on to people like me and use different unit pricing so a comparison is impossible unless you're a Phd in maths..lol. Eg..gms for the regular size and Lts/mls for the larger one and how a solid can have a value in mls is beyond me.I do a fair bit of shopping so I know prices.Our Twinings Breakfast tea can be £3.00..£3.50..£5. One day about 6 months ago, I went into one of our supermarkets (maybe better not name it) who have it 90% of the time at £5 . I saw it at £5 in the week and on the following Monday they had it at £6. I happen to have to go again on the Friday and the £6 was crossed out and £5 appeared. I usually complain about things but for whatever reason didn't that day but a few days later it just had a £5 price label. I think someone must have had a word.

I'm a member of Which? magazine and I wonder where we'd be without that organisation because Trading Standards have been cut to the bone, same with Food Standards Agency.. I believe in a very strong consumer watchdog, Trading Standards and Food Inspectorates that have strong laws to back them. We need a Ralph Nader (US) type consumer rights warrior here.

Re the meals, do you think it might contravene the Consumer Protection From Unfair Trading Regs 2008..?

https://www.which.co.uk/consumer-ri...otection-from-unfair-trading-regulations-2008

As an aside. I often have 'an aside'..lol.This consumer law is EU law and I do worry that when we leave many of the EU consumer protection laws and standards in food etc that we have will be either watered down to impotency or even abolished. At present, though, most are incorporated into UK law. We'll see.
 
Terrorize drivers into gorping mindlessly at their speedometer instead of …
It's odd how some people think that laws are there to prevent them enjoying themselves and the guys who drive cars like this are just spoil sports...

Police car Sidmouth A65 DSC03399.JPG
 
I look at the per 100gms price to see if it really is a ‘bargain’
Ah yes another favourite "Trick" I always check too,

Re the meals, do you think it might contravene the Consumer Protection From Unfair Trading Regs 2008..?
Going on the below I'd say yes, but would they really chase someone over 65p?

It is an offence under the Regulations for traders to use misleading or underhand tactics to get you to part with your cash or make some other transactional decision that you would not otherwise have made.


who have it 90% of the time at £5 . I saw it at £5 in the week and on the following Monday they had it at £6. I happen to have to go again on the Friday and the £6 was crossed out and £5 appeared
And another, doesn't something have to be advertised at the higher price for a week or so, before it becomes a "Sale" item?
I'm thinking the likes of DFS and their "super sale price"

unless you're a Phd in maths..lol. Eg..gms for the regular size and Lts/mls for the larger one
Norty I agree but if you think about it, large bags of garden compost / peat whatever are always sold in 20/30/ 50 / 100 liter bags, the smaller bagged specialist fertilisers or growing mediums
are invariably sold in bags weighed in grams.
 
It is annoying. When I see supermarket discounts or the larger pack of whatever with the price in the red/yellow colour they have for ‘great buys’ I look at the per 100gms price to see if it really is a ‘bargain’ or at least in the case of supersize, saving money. Sometimes I have to get down on my knees to lower shelving to read the very small print so with some customers seeing me like this and giving me a funny look I explain and they always agree that it’s the right thing to do. I’ve seen these supersize items at 1p more than buying two regular- sized packs and worse, being able to buy two regular size not discounted for quite a bit less less than the supersized item. I have a box of nuts/sultanas..too handy to be honest..lol. In it are redskin peanuts, walnuts and sultanas. Buy the walnuts in the home baking aisle and they're .say..£2.40 a bag. Pick them up them from the 'nuts' shelving on the way in they're £2.20. Exactly the same. If I see someone picking them up in home-baking I tell them..lol. As you'll be aware ,they are on to people like me and use different unit pricing so a comparison is impossible unless you're a Phd in maths..lol. Eg..gms for the regular size and Lts/mls for the larger one and how a solid can have a value in mls is beyond me.I do a fair bit of shopping so I know prices.Our Twinings Breakfast tea can be £3.00..£3.50..£5. One day about 6 months ago, I went into one of our supermarkets (maybe better not name it) who have it 90% of the time at £5 . I saw it at £5 in the week and on the following Monday they had it at £6. I happen to have to go again on the Friday and the £6 was crossed out and £5 appeared. I usually complain about things but for whatever reason didn't that day but a few days later it just had a £5 price label. I think someone must have had a word.

I'm a member of Which? magazine and I wonder where we'd be without that organisation because Trading Standards have been cut to the bone, same with Food Standards Agency.. I believe in a very strong consumer watchdog, Trading Standards and Food Inspectorates that have strong laws to back them. We need a Ralph Nader (US) type consumer rights warrior here.

Re the meals, do you think it might contravene the Consumer Protection From Unfair Trading Regs 2008..?

https://www.which.co.uk/consumer-ri...otection-from-unfair-trading-regulations-2008

As an aside. I often have 'an aside'..lol.This consumer law is EU law and I do worry that when we leave many of the EU consumer protection laws and standards in food etc that we have will be either watered down to impotency or even abolished. At present, though, most are incorporated into UK law. We'll see.
You've definitely got too much time on your hands :LOL:
I do also check the per gram or per litre price though if I'm honest.
 
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Re the meals, do you think it might contravene the Consumer Protection From Unfair Trading Regs 2008..?
I'm assuming the web page clearly states free delivery if you spend over £50?
If they then offer a discount and you therefore don't spend enough to get free delivery, how is that their fault?
If it bothers you that much, make sure you spend over £50 after discount.
Are you related to Victor Meldrew by any chance?
Sounds like the sort of thing he'd complain about :LOL:
 
I do also check the per gram or per litre price though if I'm honest.

That's probably why I'm not a multi millionaire, if I need it I buy, rarely check the weight etc. and never buy bulk
it just get's wasted which is these BoGoF offers annoy me
 
Just on Vauxhall Astras and police and in this case a police woman.

One of the sexiest women I've ever known was a police woman.

Thanks for bringing back that memory. I really should have posted this in the cheered me up thread :D
 
Good discription


ABD - Talivan
abd.org.uk/talivan.htm
A Talivan — A van containing one or more speed cameras used for the purpose of ruthlessly extorting money from drivers, a practice based upon a fanatical belief in 'speed' being the cause of all road accidents. Terrorize drivers into gorping mindlessly at their speedometer instead of …


I couldn't let this go unchallenged. Have you had a speeding conviction (or more than one maybe)or attended a speed awareness course as a result of detection by a mobile unit ?

The first thing that struck me reading your post was claiming that there's a fanatical belief that speed is the cause of all road traffic accidents. That just isn't true, neither the belief nor as a fact. It's certainly a major cause of 'accidents' resulting in death and injury. Injury, by the way, can be anything that's recorded as such from a minor injury to life-long disability in one way or another.I think you'll find that the term accident has been replaced with Road Traffic Incident. I've long wondered why they're called accidents when most are caused by some kind of avoidable negligence including the involvement of alcohol and/or speeding. Drivers who speed are more likely to commit other traffic offences too such as going through a red light and no insurance.

Speeding reduces the time a driver has to react to a given situation, increases stopping distance and limits the effectiveness of road safety measures..ie..barriers..both metal and concrete, railings, impact absorbers etc. In 2018 speeding was involved in 26% of all traffic-related fatalities killing 9,378 people..or on average 25 a day. The 26% represents 8,477. It's like the COVID-19 deaths stats.Each is an individual with a wife/husband/partner,siblings and extended family. It affects all these people not to forget the police officer who has to personally inform the family of the fatality. I'm sure they'd rather suffer a burglary than that.

Speed limits are there for a reason. A 30mph limit is pretty obvious. Urban area,generally..or a village..schools, shops parked vehicles, junctions..all sorts. A couple of stats. 2018. In a 30mph built-up area 53% exceed the 30mph. and 19% exceed 35mph.So that's 72% travelling at between 30-35mph. Link those numbers to this fact. The risk of death after being hit by a car travelling at between 30-40mph is 3.5 and 5.5 times more likely than than by a car travelling at below 30mph and 85% of pedestrians who are killed after being hit by a car/van died in collisions at impact speed below 40mph..45% at less than 30mph.

An independent review of over 4000 fixed site cameras over a four year period showed that they significantly reduced speeding and collisions and cut deaths and serious injuries at camera sites by 42%. Drivers get to know where these fixed site cameras are ..infact there are camera location websites and in addition Sat Navs and dedicated speed camera alert devices (Halfords sell them) give a beep warning when approaching any so it's important to have non-static checks..ie the mobile units that you don't care too much for.

Bear in mind that the number of people killed on our roads far exceeds that for those killed in crime so the police have to give road safety a high priority and to have static cameras and mobile speed detection units is helping to do that in the absence of a dwindling number of traffic officers due to financial constraints over the past 10 years. Infact from 2010-2014 alone there was a 23% reduction.

I agree with you that it can be a distraction whilst driving in a speed limit to have to keep an eye on the speedometer especially in a 30mph limit and I don't understand why manufacturers ..all of them..haven't incorporated a devise whereby you just have to press a button to input a speed and when the car exceeds it an alert sounds. I had one in my Audi A4 but neither of our cars has one now. In 2022 all new cars must have a speed limiter which isn't the same.
https://www.petrolprices.com/news/speed-limit-technology-to-be-implemented-in-all-new-cars-by-2022/

I'd like to see the speed limit painted on roads at regular intervals in the absence of regular signs and that regularity is defined in Road Traffic Law. Drivers learn it on a national basis. Urban..generally 30mph. Rural 60mph unless otherwise stated and 70mph for dual-carriageways. My brother-in-law and family came over from Canada a few years ago and we drove through the Cotswolds and after a while he asked how we knew what the speed limit was. 60mph I told him How do you know ? he asked. The Highway Code,I told him. It's not good enough to be honest.

I also appreciate that drivers wonder at times why there's a particular limit. Regarding dual-carriageways in urban settings where there are houses I'm sure it's to keep the noise level to a minimum and also exhaust fumes.
 
I'm assuming the web page clearly states free delivery if you spend over £50?
If they then offer a discount and you therefore don't spend enough to get free delivery, how is that their fault?
If it bothers you that much, make sure you spend over £50 after discount.
Are you related to Victor Meldrew by any chance?
Sounds like the sort of thing he'd complain about :LOL:


Lol. I can't 'elp meself, Bob.:)

You mention Victor Meldrew. When I was at work (retired now) a work colleague told me one day that I reminded him of Meldrew. He had to tell me who Meldrew was. I then watched the programme and yes.. I could see why. Infact, when we go out in the car and I'm passenger I'm free to see everything around..and people...ah yes..people and comment...ok..moan and my poor wife says. "You're such a joy to be out with"..lol. There's no litter within 50m of our house, I not only cut our grass verge but the three of the neighbours' too . It looks very neat and tidy though and they appreciate it. I won't do myself any favours telling you this but I spent quite a while this afternoon going through it and analysing it just as you've pointed out but I resisted the temptation to post my thought process. I decided it was a grey area and as you may well imagine, I don't do grey too readily. :D
 
It’s also odd how some people lack a sense of humour.

I hadn't seen your post to Andrew F when I posted my response. An appropriate emoji would have helped. Bear in mind that a lot of people think what you've written so you shoudn't be suprised that two of us took it seriously.

Anyway, I'm pleased that you don't really think that.
 
I couldn't let this go unchallenged. Have you had a speeding conviction (or more than one maybe)or attended a speed awareness course as a result of detection by a mobile unit ?

The first thing that struck me reading your post was claiming that there's a fanatical belief that speed is the cause of all road traffic accidents. That just isn't true, neither the belief nor as a fact. It's certainly a major cause of 'accidents' resulting in death and injury. Injury, by the way, can be anything that's recorded as such from a minor injury to life-long disability in one way or another.I think you'll find that the term accident has been replaced with Road Traffic Incident. I've long wondered why they're called accidents when most are caused by some kind of avoidable negligence including the involvement of alcohol and/or speeding. Drivers who speed are more likely to commit other traffic offences too such as going through a red light and no insurance.

Speeding reduces the time a driver has to react to a given situation, increases stopping distance and limits the effectiveness of road safety measures..ie..barriers..both metal and concrete, railings, impact absorbers etc. In 2018 speeding was involved in 26% of all traffic-related fatalities killing 9,378 people..or on average 25 a day. The 26% represents 8,477. It's like the COVID-19 deaths stats.Each is an individual with a wife/husband/partner,siblings and extended family. It affects all these people not to forget the police officer who has to personally inform the family of the fatality. I'm sure they'd rather suffer a burglary than that.

Speed limits are there for a reason. A 30mph limit is pretty obvious. Urban area,generally..or a village..schools, shops parked vehicles, junctions..all sorts. A couple of stats. 2018. In a 30mph built-up area 53% exceed the 30mph. and 19% exceed 35mph.So that's 72% travelling at between 30-35mph. Link those numbers to this fact. The risk of death after being hit by a car travelling at between 30-40mph is 3.5 and 5.5 times more likely than than by a car travelling at below 30mph and 85% of pedestrians who are killed after being hit by a car/van died in collisions at impact speed below 40mph..45% at less than 30mph.

An independent review of over 4000 fixed site cameras over a four year period showed that they significantly reduced speeding and collisions and cut deaths and serious injuries at camera sites by 42%. Drivers get to know where these fixed site cameras are ..infact there are camera location websites and in addition Sat Navs and dedicated speed camera alert devices (Halfords sell them) give a beep warning when approaching any so it's important to have non-static checks..ie the mobile units that you don't care too much for.

Bear in mind that the number of people killed on our roads far exceeds that for those killed in crime so the police have to give road safety a high priority and to have static cameras and mobile speed detection units is helping to do that in the absence of a dwindling number of traffic officers due to financial constraints over the past 10 years. Infact from 2010-2014 alone there was a 23% reduction.

I agree with you that it can be a distraction whilst driving in a speed limit to have to keep an eye on the speedometer especially in a 30mph limit and I don't understand why manufacturers ..all of them..haven't incorporated a devise whereby you just have to press a button to input a speed and when the car exceeds it an alert sounds. I had one in my Audi A4 but neither of our cars has one now. In 2022 all new cars must have a speed limiter which isn't the same.
https://www.petrolprices.com/news/speed-limit-technology-to-be-implemented-in-all-new-cars-by-2022/

I'd like to see the speed limit painted on roads at regular intervals in the absence of regular signs and that regularity is defined in Road Traffic Law. Drivers learn it on a national basis. Urban..generally 30mph. Rural 60mph unless otherwise stated and 70mph for dual-carriageways. My brother-in-law and family came over from Canada a few years ago and we drove through the Cotswolds and after a while he asked how we knew what the speed limit was. 60mph I told him How do you know ? he asked. The Highway Code,I told him. It's not good enough to be honest.

I also appreciate that drivers wonder at times why there's a particular limit. Regarding dual-carriageways in urban settings where there are houses I'm sure it's to keep the noise level to a minimum and also exhaust fumes.
Blimey........ and all because I couldn’t be assed with a
Smiley
that’ll teach me
 
I hadn't seen your post to Andrew F when I posted my response. An appropriate emoji would have helped. Bear in mind that a lot of people think what you've written so you shoudn't be suprised that two of us took it seriously.

Anyway, I'm pleased that you don't really think that.
I’m not surprised.....
Just pleased
 
Ouch, that looks painful :(
 
That's probably why I'm not a multi millionaire, if I need it I buy, rarely check the weight etc. and never buy bulk
it just get's wasted which is these BoGoF offers annoy me

I agree. I can't be bothered trying to work out if something is a good buy or not. If I want/need it and I'm willing to pay the asking price, I buy it. If not, I don't.
 
I can't be bothered trying to work out if something is a good buy or not.
There's nothing to work out, you read the price ticket.
If an 8 pack is 10p a litre and a 24 pack is 14p a litre, buy three 8 packs. Assuming you want 24 :)
Simples :)
 
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There's nothing to work out, you read the price ticket.
If an 8 pack is 10p a litre and a 24 pack is 14p a litre, buy three 8 packs.
Simples :)

Why? If I want eight, I'll buy that pack; if I want more than eight, I'll buy the larger pack. I'm not very interested in the price difference.
 
I'm not very interested in the price difference.
What annoys me every day is that there are far too many people in our prosperous country who have to worry about that price difference lest their children go hungry. :(
 
Why? If I want eight, I'll buy that pack; if I want more than eight, I'll buy the larger pack. I'm not very interested in the price difference.

Depends. If I want 24 and 3 8 packs are better value, I'll get the 3 8 packs. If I need 20 and a 24 pack is better value than 20 using different pack sizes, I'll get the 24 and use the extras. If I need 10 and am unlikely to want/need any extras, I'll get an 8 pack and 2 singles or 2 8 packs and give the extras away.
 
I always look at the prices and I often buy the white label ones but sometimes they aren't the cheapest but I'll see that as always check the prices.
 
My favourite, that is quite common in Tesco at the moment, a double pack of 20 :jaffa: £1.98
1 packet of 10 = 50p
I'd be mad not to price check that one (y)
:D
 
A double pack of 20?
Isn't that 40?...:LOL:


I'd still buy the 4 packs of 10 and hang the extra tuppence expense. My reasoning is that a packet of biscuits is a portion so for £2, I get 4 portions of 10 but for tuppence less I only get 2 portions of 20.

Yes, I am a fat twunt!
 
£2, I get 4 portions of 10 but for tuppence less I only get 2 portions of 20.
So do you cut a pizza in 8 pieces, or go for the extra 4 portions in 12 pieces? :D
 
I got an Oral B cordless toothbrush as a present and I just can't get the hang of it.

If I put toothpaste on it and turn it on it just vibrates the toothpaste off in 2 or 3 seconds. I tried turning it on after I'd put it in my mouth and the same thing happened. I brushed one tooth and when I moved to the next all I could taste was water.

The thing seems utterly useless if the point is to use it with toothpaste. Anyone got one?
 
Toothpaste on, spread over a few teeth then switch on whilst it's in your mouth.

I've been using an electric toothbrush for over thirty years - there is no way I could ever go back to a manual one.

You'll find your teeth will be so much cleaner after each brushing plus you'll find you use less toothpaste.
 
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