Having been out twice with my M5, here are my initial impressions.
Good
- Solid feel and build quality
- Decent AF (tracked a fast moving train in Servo)
- Decent IQ
- Good menu structure and controls
- Easy to use
- Decent size and weight
Bad
- Touch and slide AF is activated by my nose so I had to turn it off (Left eye shooter) which is a real let down
- Buffer writes really slowly (shooting in RAW to a 80Mbs SDHC card took ages to write to the card even after 3-4 shots in continuous
- It is no longer coat pocketable due to the viewfinder when a 22 is attached
All in all I am ok with it as I did expect some compromises compared to my other bodies. I do need to spend longer exploring its capabilities before I make a final judgement.
Is your card Class 10 U3 ? or U1 ? this might be the reason for slow writing.Having been out twice with my M5, here are my initial impressions.
Good
- Solid feel and build quality
- Decent AF (tracked a fast moving train in Servo)
- Decent IQ
- Good menu structure and controls
- Easy to use
- Decent size and weight
Bad
- Touch and slide AF is activated by my nose so I had to turn it off (Left eye shooter) which is a real let down
- Buffer writes really slowly (shooting in RAW to a 80Mbs SDHC card took ages to write to the card even after 3-4 shots in continuous
- It is no longer coat pocketable due to the viewfinder when a 22 is attached
All in all I am ok with it as I did expect some compromises compared to my other bodies. I do need to spend longer exploring its capabilities before I make a final judgement.
Is your card Class 10 U3 ? or U1 ? this might be the reason for slow writing.
the number is inside the U I had problems with my car dash cam as it records two 1080 30fps video plus sound and until I got a U3 it was not working well and missing much, sometimes you see them marked for 4K video in adverts.I assume a 1 as it doesn't say 3.
It is 80Mb/s so shouldn't be much slower than a 3 / 95mbs ?
What does the 3 mean?
I use Kingston, mine are 80MB/s W 90MB/s RThis is something I need to upgrade for my M5 I'm still using a mixture of Sandisk ultra 30-45mbs between 2 and 7 years old.
Any U3 cards you'd recommend?
Been this price for a few weeks now, I'm watching it but I think I want the 11-22mm first [emoji57]
Been this price for a few weeks now, I'm watching it but I think I want the 11-22mm first [emoji57]
Looking for opinions on the M5 guys.
Firstly, what's the video focus like (in good light). I need to make a series of instructional videos for my work which will be filmed under good lighting - this is my primary reason for buying the camera.
Secondly, what's the 15-45 like compared to the older 18-55 (or around that from memory)?
Lastly, assume there are no known issues using the adaptor and EF/EF-S glass with the M5?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks Steve. Encouraging to hear your experience with video and the M5. I also use LED video lights so a good comparison.
Just one more quick question. I had a M3 when they were first available and at that time third party batteries weren't available. I see they are now, any issues with them?
David
Cheers Steve. At £40 for an OEM battery, or £36 for 5 x ExPro batteries, I think I can live without the battery level
I wasn't aware that the Canon battery charger wouldn't work, so thanks for that. I'd have bought a little USB charger anyway so a non-issue.
My local LCE are restocking the M5 this week. Hopefully I'll find some time to pop to them and give one a good test.
Cheers for your help, David.
My chosen trio would be the 22mm, 35mm Art and 85mm 1.8.I think you will like the feel and general handling.
I tried out the 18-200 zoom and was not taken with it.
The EF-M range of lenses needs boosting with more primes
My M kit has the brilliant 22mm pancake and the 28mm macrolite (good not great) , 15-45 and 55-200. These are supported by the EF-S 10-18. 24 pancake, EF 40 pancake and the brilliant Sigma 30mm f/1.4 ART. The EF-M 11-22 is not good enough to justify it's price compared tot he EF-S 10-18..
Realistically the 22mm kept me happy to wait for the M5, now Canon need to build their prime range if they truly want to take on Fuji.
Steve
My chosen trio would be the 22mm, 35mm Art and 85mm 1.8.
But I think Canon need to prioritise a 30 or 35mm and a short tele if they want to be taken seriously. They can charge a reasonable sum if they supply the right quality. I have no interest in most of the EF-M lenses. Canon need to follow Fuji's lead.
I'd also like the M7 to be more rangefinder like, the 5 has great specs, but it'd be more desirable without the grip and viewfinder hump.
The 40mm is STM so on video is 'almost' silent. I used mine on the 750D and now on the M5 and happy with the results. I don't do Vblogging but for your needs probably ideal. There is one in the Canon classified currently.Thanks guys. Tbh, one of my main reasons for (probably) going for the M5 is that the Missus is a Canon shooter so I can pinch her glass instead of us having two of everything.
I'll get the kit with 15-45, buy another 22 (had one when I had M3), not bother with the 11-22 (Missus has the 10-18) and maybe the 55-200 as liked it before.
I remember when I had the M3 how well the 40 pancake worked with it, be interesting to see how this lens works with video.
Welcome to the club! If you do buy thr M5, as per my earlier posts, give the Sigma 30mm f/f1.4 ART a try. One of my friend's cousin is a Nikon user but he popped in when I visited yesterday, I let him try my M5.... just heard he has decided to buy an M5...... he will have to move to avoid the Nikonistas...Went out this morning to try the M5 - have to say I'm impressed.
Handling is lovely (as is being back on a Canon menu after using Sony for a while), focus is snappy and accurate and love the drag screen to focus feature.
Initially wasn't impressed with the 15-45, but after getting home and having a play in LR it seems very good for a kit lens. Also took the Missus's 40mm, 10-18 and Sigma 17-50 with me - all performed really well on the M5.
What did surprise me was how good it was in low light. Think I'll be ordering this camera very soon
Frankly they are both excellent, the 24 is compact and bright, the extra 2mm over the 22 is neither here nor there. Push me and say I can only have 1.... it would be the 22 pancake. The slightly better aperture is only noticeable in the dusk/evening street shots (when I would change to the f/1.4 30mm Sigma mentioned in my earlier posts. It is very quick on AF, exttemely sharp and no serious CA, even when pushed hard and has no extraneous electronics to cover IS. Colour rendition is superb in such a tiny lens. The 24 is plenty sharp too, not as well built as the 22 but still very usable.Ignoring the size difference, which would you say is the better lens. The M22 or the 24 pancake?
Not bothered about having to use adaptor, in fact seriously considering ignoring M lenses all together (it isn't the size and weight I'm interested in, I just prefer mirrorless cameras).
I've had a chance to put some video I took yesterday through it's paces in Prem Pro today with really good results. Even upsampling to 4k for YouTube worked nicely and smoothly,
Going to think about it for a few more days, but think I've made my mind up to go for M5 + 15-45mm and the 28mm macro. I sell a lot of small products that would make boring images. Figure adding a few macro images will make articles a little more interesting.
I'll then get the 22 and 55-200 in time, plus the Hitech 67mm filter holder, as I have a good polariser to fit it already.
Thanks for the heads up on the Jessops price Steve, hadn't seen that.
Not sure how much I'll use the LED, but can see it working well with my little Aputure AL-M9 that lives in my camera bag.
My new EOS M10 has arrived, it's going to get an unglamorous life squeezed into the space designed for a water bottle in my hydration vest! I've bought it to start photographing my trail races, first out is 14 miles around Corfe Castle and Studland this Saturday.
Whilst it's inexplicably missing some really basic features such as bulb mode, panorama (which I will miss) and less crucially but an annoyance of mine - minimum shutter speed in Auto ISO, I couldn't really argue bang for buck. £275 with a (usefully wide) 15-45mm kit lens is a bit of a steal for an APS-C body.
I now just need to find a way to waterproof it whilst retaining relatively easy access and not increasing bulk. I'm thinking a small resealable bag of some sort.
My new EOS M10 has arrived, it's going to get an unglamorous life squeezed into the space designed for a water bottle in my hydration vest! I've bought it to start photographing my trail races, first out is 14 miles around Corfe Castle and Studland this Saturday.
Whilst it's inexplicably missing some really basic features such as bulb mode, panorama (which I will miss) and less crucially but an annoyance of mine - minimum shutter speed in Auto ISO, I couldn't really argue bang for buck. £275 with a (usefully wide) 15-45mm kit lens is a bit of a steal for an APS-C body.
I now just need to find a way to waterproof it whilst retaining relatively easy access and not increasing bulk. I'm thinking a small resealable bag of some sort.