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We have the Moderators to thank for this.
We should celebrate the fact not complain.
We have the Moderators to thank for this.
We should celebrate the fact not complain.
the problem is, some people find it impossible to attack the viewpoint without attacking the person it comes from as well... as soon as things stray into personal attacks then it's no longer free-speech and debate. It's almost invariably the reason for closure that the thread degenerates into name calling and personal abuse. If you want threads to stay open, and avoid getting points (they don't make prizes, they make bans in this game) "play the ball, not the man"
Anyway, carry on.......
I'd like to go to the event in question though
It's also strange that it's almost always the people who have been moderated that think that the place is over-moderated.
I only ask as once again another thread has been closed by what seems to me one of the many over officious moderators on here.
Again one person is singled out and threatened with a ban because he defends himself. Time and again decent (if not contentious aka interesting) threads get closed.
This is by far the most sensitive forum I am a member of (probably for not much longer after this).
Am I wrong or do other agree? Do not insult me though as we know what happens.
the problem is, some people find it impossible to attack the viewpoint without attacking the person it comes from as well... as soon as things stray into personal attacks then it's no longer free-speech and debate. It's almost invariably the reason for closure that the thread degenerates into name calling and personal abuse. If you want threads to stay open, and avoid getting points (they don't make prizes, they make bans in this game) "play the ball, not the man"
Without moderation a forum becomes a very unwelcome place.
It is a thankless task and takes up rather more time than many can afford to give.
On many forums, questioning moderation in a thread results in an automatic ban.
Mostly flames are quickly quenched before they become a conflagration on this site.
We have the Moderators to thank for this.
We should celebrate the fact not complain.
David Pookeyhead is undoubtedly one of the best contributors to TP, and I do not want him to leave, voluntarily or otherwise.
But his ability to antagonise for no apparent reason is peerless.
Too many of his posts can be summed up as "You're wrong. I'm right. And BTW you're a nob." And so it kicks off.
I'd like to go to the event in question though
Power mad all of them.. gone right to there heads... better than sex I heard one say....
Personally, I like his straight talking attitude - might be a "Bluff Northerner" thing... at least you know where you stand with him.
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on stage might have to dodge a few pies.
come now, no true northerner would throw pies ... they've spent good money for them lad and a penny save tis a penny earned....
If you wouldn't say it down the pub without expecting to be relieved of your teeth, down bash it into a keyboard.
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I think the issue is more where you would say it down the pub , without it kicking off........
Well, you learn something new every day. I didnt realise the RTM button was anonymous
IMO Pookeyhead made a valid point that those who are 'anti-intellectual' do seem to get away with behaviour that wouldn't be tolerated in another context - even when they bring about the closure of a thread which others are enjoying engaging with. Yet when he retaliates in kind he gets reprimanded. Strikes me as somewhat unfair. It's all well and good saying 'RTM', but some of us prefer to fight our own battles rather than run to teacher..
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Well, you learn something new every day. I didnt realise the RTM button was anonymous
IMO Pookeyhead made a valid point that those who are 'anti-intellectual' do seem to get away with behaviour that wouldn't be tolerated in another context - even when they bring about the closure of a thread which others are enjoying engaging with. Yet when he retaliates in kind he gets reprimanded. Strikes me as somewhat unfair. It's all well and good saying 'RTM', but some of us prefer to fight our own battles rather than run to teacher..
another forum i go on has a little tag that says "XYZ has reported this post for abc reason" but i'd say that generally isnt helpful and causes more issues than it solves
Problem is, we can't see every thread that's on here - there's only usually half a dozen of the staff at most online at any one time - and, well - frankly, there's a LOAD of threads getting posted to. Unless it's a thread about something that catches our eye due to our own personal interests, the chances of simply wandering into a thread and spotting things as they "kick off" (generally the best point to jump on any trouble) are slim. So, we do kind of rely on RTMs to help us notice the problems... and, sadly, as some people bear grudges/run vendettas/indulge in on-and-off-forum bullying that have been on-going for months-years there are times when it's not always all that clear who's started things, but it is generally clear when someone has called the other a knob...
I think the RTM function has it's faults. Mostly due to the anonymity. On many (not all, I have to say) it lets spineless cowards who don't have the bottle top front things up sneak off and tell tit tales.
I've seen that one in use in certain places as well - it's a recipe for disaster unless the moderation on that site is so draconian that they instantly ban both protagonists...
Yeah but at that point a quick 'reported' post notifies others it's already donethe only time it is handy is with spam - where you can see that its already been reported so you don't need to bother (saves the mods getting 32 reports that the kitchen dealers are back in town)
I think the RTM function has it's faults. Mostly due to the anonymity. On many (not all, I have to say) it lets spineless cowards who don't have the bottle top front things up sneak off and tell tit tales. I'm sure as well as wielding the big ban stick the Mods get pretty hacked as well with some of the whittering, belly aching, mundane and childish pish they get reported to them. The folk who do this know who they are but the Internet is a great place to hide if you have no balls and the RTM assists this at times. As Danny says above, it is sometimes difficult to know how to take the written word as opposed to the spokne word face to face.
On a personal note, I've never used the RTM and never will. I'd rather take the hit (and have done, literally, on several occasion and not just on here or other forums but 'down the pub as well ) than carry out an action like those I despise.
Yeah but at that point a quick 'reported' post notifies others it's already done
You could get rid of all the knobs.......................................................................................................................................................oh, wait a minute.................................................