Errr - how do we share though? I (obviously) don't have a scanner etc. Maybe I can shoot digital as a back-up
At least you're using modern méthods.....i'm still on with using à Kodak soluble crayon outfit from the 1930's....Take digital shots of your negatives then colour them in using Microsoft Paint. That's how I've been doing it, which is why it takes me so long to upload anything.
Don't even try Dave, it's not worth it
And I believe that too
I've climbed a few mountains in France, Italy and the Lakes - and I've shot images on film (cos that's all there was then) at each of them - but the photos I love the most were all taken at lake shore level (and yes on film too)
High up is amazing, but often doesn't translate into a great image for me
Film I 'get' - but film processed as a scanned image I really can't understand, to me you;re just creating a digital image by another means; and something that can probably be done by digital in the first place
Joe Cornish I know personally, I got him to present to 150 peeps in Barnsley a few years back, he then shot on 5x4" but now does digital courses - kinda says it all
Dave
Andy has promised a gentle one for me
And I believe that too
I've climbed a few mountains in France, Italy and the Lakes - and I've shot images on film (cos that's all there was then) at each of them - but the photos I love the most were all taken at lake shore level (and yes on film too)
High up is amazing, but often doesn't translate into a great image for me
Film I 'get' - but film processed as a scanned image I really can't understand, to me you;re just creating a digital image by another means; and something that can probably be done by digital in the first place
Joe Cornish I know personally, I got him to present to 150 peeps in Barnsley a few years back, he then shot on 5x4" but now does digital courses - kinda says it all
Dave
Students eh....always organiséd
I wonder what the local plod are gunna think of all these odd looking flimies stood stranded at the roadside in Penrith
So I think I'm going to draw the line here and say we are fully booked. Sorry if it disappoints anyone but I'm sure we will do more if everything goes well.
The whole 'oh, why take a film shot and turn it into digital' argument always escapes me and comes across a little ill thought out. Do all digital sensors behave the same? No, of course they don't. Does scanning somehow remove all the characteristics of the film at the time of shooting, somehow suggesting the scanner was there at the time? No, of course it doesn't. A scanned image is the convolution of the film response to the scene and the scanner response to the film; the scanner being vaguely consistent does capture the characteristics of the film - an aspect the 'turning film into digital' brigade seemingly willfully forget. Frankly, I spend most of my time trying to correct for the shoddy performance of the digital conversion to try and make it look like the film, not processing with every tool/action available to me. Ultimately shoot what you want, but at least think about the arguments before making them.
On a personal level, I find the outcome and process of purely digital shooting to be quite puerile, unchallenging, impersonal, disconnecting and boring.
But not yet
I'm not in that argument - I'm asking if turning a film shot into digital at ASDA to share it online loses some of the look of film, and it sounds like you're saying it does
Shooting film then editing in Photoshop - now that does seem a bit pointless, surely film editing should be in a darkroom
As for this bit... I find the outcome and process of purely digital shooting to be quite puerile, unchallenging, impersonal, disconnecting and boring.I find the outcome and process of purely digital shooting to be quite puerile, unchallenging, impersonal, disconnecting and boring. All I can say is that you're nuts
Puerile - really? How about the silliness of traveling for hours and not knowing if you've got a good shot at all. Unchallenging, compared to what? All photographers use metering, not sure where the challenge is there, and as film generally has a wider latitude anyway you can get your exposure very wrong indeed and still get a nice print. Impersonal? Sending film off to a lab isn't impersonal then? Disconnecting? Now you are taking the P - with digital's ability to see, review, change instantly you are totally connected. Boring? If any aspect of creating great images is boring to you then surely you need a new hobby
And before anyone rants back at me please remember I shot film for 25 years or so before shooting digital, digital allows me the freedom to shoot differently and 'develop' my images exactly as I always wanted but couldn't do with film
I don't think there's anything wrong with film btw, its just different. If I shot film at all it'd be on MF or larger - I've always fancied a 645 as being the ideal film size for me; one day maybe it'll happen
Dave
Can I bring my vast array of digeridoodahs then? 
. The accommodation is sorted and now as full as I want it to be, we will be off doing lots of lovely things and taking lots of lovely photos, if a few digital cameras appear it won't spoil anything and it might just convert a few.
Look, it doesn't matter, all the filmies are corralled in one place and you don't have to talk to anyone you don't want to talk to
I can't imagine that it will spoil it for anyone but if it does then I'm sorry, we can't just isolate ourselves away from the rest of the forum, it is an open forum, even the film and conventional section. So ,that's it, no more complaints please as I'm feeling stressed enough at the moment with real life.
Does anyone shoot slides still ???
I used to like doing so but only had a cheap viewer from Jessops rather than a proper projector, I had a few Cibachrome prints done and they were lovely
Dave
EDIT - I just Googled slide films and they are rather expensive aren't they - I don't think I'll bother
Thanks Dean, just a bit stressed at the moment. I'll be fine in a day or two.Very true and well put. Apologies for raising your stress levels, you and the CMS have my and t'missus's gratitude for all the effort you've put into organising this
As you are talking about Slide film, I just love using this film particularly Velvia 50Asa and sometimes you can be a bit lazy with your approach,as Asha demonstrates here.
Shot with Bessa R3a 21mm voigtlander color-skopar and Velvia 50Asa.
From my (admittedly fairly limited) slide days the trick is to do what is now known as ETTR (expose to the right) meaning to make sure you don't clip the highlights. That's fine for landscapes evenly lit but just doesn't work so well on contrasty subjects and of course you can't do that if backlit
Its about learning when to open up a bit or close down a bit from what your meter is telling you - if in doubt though, bracket and takes notes of the exposures to compare later - but as Woodsy says its well worth it as a perfectly exposed slide is a thing of beauty
Dave
You're right, I need to keep trying. It doesn't help when you shoot a roll of Provia 400 thinking its Sensia 100.....
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