Rant, rant, rant.. it really gets my goat...

:agree:

Chill off, its only communication!

… with a severe handicap in favour of the image poster.
  • The image poster starts the thread with a 1000 words on
    his/her side and the replier starts with an empty white box
    and a like button.
  • The image poster took the time to produce an image and
    it's hoped that the viewer will
    instantly cook up dithyrambic
    replies! WTF?
  • Photography is a communication mode… visual that is. In
    many cases (like mine), it eases the lack of drawing talent
    and, for others, even the lack of profuse verbal expression.
I do spend lots of time in studio shootings of all nature (that's my
trade) and I spend all my free time shooting a multitude other sub-
jects (that includes visits to the marsh) just for the kick of it.

Just like a
lot of members, I get "likes" sometimes; I like the likes be-
cause the viewer can express his/her pleasure through it without
saying a word.

Some will spend hours on their knees in their garden, or elsewhere,
to shoot our almost invisible planet's jewels. Others will report on
events where every captures is a prowess in itself at 1/4000 sec.

In my book, these are all worth the efforts and rewards such as likes,
long replies, or even the shortest and seemingly insignificant ones.

Chill off, its only communication… and honesty is the most eloquent
part of it.

Absolutely spot on. Hit the nail on the head perfectly.
 
Nice thread.
 
From now on it looks like replies to threads are only going to consist of about 5-6 words :p
 
Why do people "shoot" photos and do not "take" photos, and then they try to call their "shooting" art. Only if the animal you are shooting had a fecking gun.
 
Hopefully this is a joke, if not get a life as there are far more important things to get upset about.
 
They may not be able to articulate a reason. Many people can't.
This is true. And yet - if they can't articulate it, what the hell are they seeing, thinking or feeling? And how are we lesser mortals ever going to know? Is it to do with a lack of training, aptitude - or just laziness, in which case why bother to speak at all?

Americanisms. Platitudes. Tweeness. Familiarised diminutives.

It's been said already. Lovely shot. Great capture. Gas, and glass. Tog, or worse, toggers, makes me want to howl. Puke-worthy abbreviations of manufacturers' names - Panny, Oly, et al.

We live on the head of a nail, and here comes the hammer ...
 
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When i'm laid in bed trying to read through these comments and end up nodding off and dropping the phone on my face!! Nite nite!! :-/
 
The Like Button, folk click on the like button for a photo you put up, but why not say the reason why you like it.

I have to say I was against adding that damned button for just that reason, even though I do use it now its there. On the other hand it did slightly reduce the "nice shot" quota a little.
 
As long as the couple / parents like them...:tumbleweed:

'It's just my opinion, everyone's entitled to an opinion' used to defend a position based without facts or knowledge and spouted by someone who can't defend their opinion beyond insisting they're entitled to hold one. :mad:

Let's see how much better you can do then... :bat:


Giving my work away isn't hurting anyone... apart from the people it's hurting, but I don't care about them :thinking:
 
but why not say the reason why you like it.


The very first likes I got on this forum I thought: "what a strange idea!". My
students explained me the whys and hows since don't do social media.


Time past by and I found out that some will comment and some not, some
like and some don't etc. I discovered too that some are very expressive or
even hostile and others not; all kind of reaction expressed as one is at the
screen, possibly alone. Why should anyone have to justify, explain why?

Can all explain why they like that girl or not, an
image, a book? I don't even
know why I don't like beer! OTH, a like is all to be expected from many who
may not have the words yet or the guts to formulate a critic being very afraid
to hurt someone's felling or else… or just think they cannot have valuable
critics because they can't do better or else… and I hate to see a thread going
from creation to oblivion in just a matter of days, no comments, no likes, al-
most ignored.

I personally never think of using that like button but I will comment trying my
best to be diplomatic, fair and giving reasons and tips.

Systematically, two members I have in mind, will give replies in the shortest
form and I thought that was maybe not worth it. Until I had personal contacts
that revealed
personalities that prefer to take less room on the floor, simply.

I opposed the likes when I first stepped in but, with time, I got to like the likes.
 
As long as the couple / parents like them...:tumbleweed:

'It's just my opinion, everyone's entitled to an opinion' used to defend a position based without facts or knowledge and spouted by someone who can't defend their opinion beyond insisting they're entitled to hold one. :mad:

Let's see how much better you can do then... :bat:


Giving my work away isn't hurting anyone... apart from the people it's hurting, but I don't care about them :thinking:
I forgot what thread I was reading and though you were making a statement. "That doesn't sound like @Phil V came to mind" then I remembered the thread and all became clear.
 
The very first likes I got on this forum I thought: "what a strange idea!". My
students explained me the whys and hows since don't do social media.


Time past by and I found out that some will comment and some not, some
like and some don't etc. I discovered too that some are very expressive or
even hostile and others not; all kind of reaction expressed as one is at the
screen, possibly alone. Why should anyone have to justify, explain why?

Can all explain why they like that girl or not, an
image, a book? I don't even
know why I don't like beer! OTH, a like is all to be expected from many who
may not have the words yet or the guts to formulate a critic being very afraid
to hurt someone's felling or else… or just think they cannot have valuable
critics because they can't do better or else… and I hate to see a thread going
from creation to oblivion in just a matter of days, no comments, no likes, al-
most ignored.

I personally never think of using that like button but I will comment trying my
best to be diplomatic, fair and giving reasons and tips.

Systematically, two members I have in mind, will give replies in the shortest
form and I thought that was maybe not worth it. Until I had personal contacts
that revealed
personalities that prefer to take less room on the floor, simply.

I opposed the likes when I first stepped in but, with time, I got to like the likes.

Who has time to write up every photo they see here on the forum?

"Like" is a quick and easy way of expressing an emotional response to an image that has merit. There are many photo's on TP that do that.

Also, by writing a "report" on a photo will quite often cause arguments and critical tirades that can be quite offensive.

No doubt this will cause furore amongst the chattering classes.............:)
 
- People who use the word "brought" instead of "bought".

- TLDR, YOLO, etc...... I get enough forced acronyms at work. Typing is not that hard.

- Seeing a group of teenagers/family out sitting having a meal and every one of them having their faces planted firmly in their phones.

Photography related:

- People jumping on the newest gear bandwagon for 1 more frame per second, and suddenly tech that was great a few months ago being useless.

- Everyone expecting you to bring your fancy camera along to every event and take some snaps (incidentally, never thinking you might like to be in some pictures!)

- Zooming into 100% in everything/ never printing.

- people asking if they can have a shot of your camera!!!!

- Have to agree with the "in my opinion........". It's usually a good place to stop reading.


I'm a bitter angry man!!!!
 
People jumping on the newest gear bandwagon for 1 more frame per second, and suddenly tech that was great a few months ago being useless.
:agree: how can a good camera from yesterday, be rubbish today.
Zooming into 100% in everything/ never printing.
:agree: although I'm slightly guilty of this sometimes (the 100% thing), but I also know it's not representative of the final image/photograph/photo/ (not sure what to call it now:().
 
In which case, as he describes his photographs as "departures from reality" Ansel Adams didn't capture much. I think this proves my point about the way photographers regard photographs.

Ansel once said in an interview:
I think of Stieglitz's definition of photography -a paraphrase of what I heard him say many times. In the earlier days, when people were very scornful of what he called "creative photography" or "photography as art," they would ask: "Mr. Stieglitz, how do you go about making the creative photograph?" He would answer, "When I have a desire to photograph, I go out in the world with my camera. I come across something that excites me emotionally and esthetically. I'm creatively excited. I see the picture in my mind's eye and I make the exposure and I give you the print as the equivalent of what I saw and felt." The word "equivalent" is very important. It's two things-what is seen and what is felt about it. That's why the naturalistic element in photography is very important. When you intentionally depart from the natural situation you can get into trouble. Unless you depart far enough.
 
Who has time to write up every photo they see here on the forum?
.

I tend to try to add a comment if I've 'liked' as to why I liked it, what thoughts it gave etc. You've already given it thought, it takes only around 20 seconds to add the comment, which I think is a good reward for the time the photographer put into the image, then decided to share it with us. It also adds to your own thought process - why did I like it, can I articulate that
 
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