Eos 6d Owners Thread!

Well, I must be dicing with danger.

I use non OEM:
Batteries
Memory cards
Flash triggers
Fladhguns
Studio flash
Lenses
Straps

People who decide to decide what's 'dangerous' usually draw the line before batteries. They'll use 'reputable' memory cards, or they'll only use 3rd party lenses which offer something that OEM don't. But they refuse to accept that's a judgement call and the 'actual risk' is exactly the same.
It's frankly b******t. Of course that's just an opinion, whereas someone who's opinion is that off brand batteries are dangerous will quote the warranty but happily ignore the same warranty if they want to use Sandisk cards? Or Zeiss lenses?
 
The risks with batteries are a little higher though aren't they? Cards and lenses may fail but are rather unlikely to damage the camera in the process. A cheap tat battery stands a much higher chance of leaking and causing significant damage to the camera.

Each to their own of course and if some find any perceived risk acceptable then fair enough, I just personally feel it's a false economy as even £50-60 for a Canon battery is negligible compared to the cost of the camera itself and photography gear in general.
 
Do you have any examples of this happening:)
 
Not offhand but I'm sure there are instances of all batteries leaking, Canon ones included. Whether there's any evidence of third-party ones leaking any more than Canon ones I don't know, I just choose not to find out :)
 
That,s your choice of course but i have never had a problem in all the years i have used 3rd party ones.:)
 
Fair enough, that's your prerogative.

Out of interest, with the LP-E6s, don't only the Canon ones have full coding with serial numbers etc that the camera can recognise and register, or have the other manufacturers cracked that now?
 
Well my ones are recognised by the camera showing what state of charge:)
 
Do they show serial numbers which can be registered by the camera as per the originals?
 
To be honest i have never noticed if they do that or not,i was just happy it showed the charge state,someone else might know the answer to that one.:)
 
I understand the point being made about batteries and warranty, but if you open a Canon battery you will see it's just as cheaply made as a reasonable quality 3rd party battery :) I've never heard of a battery leaking or exploding inside a camera, 3rd party or not. In fact, I can't remember any batteries leaking in anything I own, other than a Praktica camera which I hadn't touched for 15 years :)
 
If they damage the body, yes.



Yes!



Dream on. It means what Canon deem to be compatible, not you. Nothing made by another company, batteries and lenses included, are "compatible" in Canon's eyes and will void the warranty if they damage the camera. You do know that Canon don't actually "allow" other manufacturers to make lenses for their cameras? Sigma, Tamron et al aren't allowed the specs for the AF system for example, and have to reverse engineer it without Canon's permission.
Don't be silly! The warranty meaning is translated as the warranty would be void if you tried, say a 50d battery on a 6d, not a third party compatible 6d battery. If it's as you've described it would fall foul of the unfair contracts and terms act.
 
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Do you have any examples of this happening:)
I've looked this up yesterday and I couldn't find a single incident of this happening, let alone it happening and voiding warranties.

That's not to say a battery has never leaked and damaged a camera, that would go against the balance of probabilities but I think it means we don't really have to worry about it.
 
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I've looked this up yesterday and I couldn't find a single incident of this happening, let alone it happening and voiding warranties.

That's not to say a battery has never leaked and damaged a camera, that would go against the balance of probabilities but I think I means we don't really have to worry about it.
And on a risk / benefit analysis, how does this pan out then?

Risk when using 3rd part batteries - perceived risk of battery damaging camera but no evidence it ever happened

Risk of buying fewer OEM batteries (same budget) - running out of battery power when shooting, genuine risk encountered often.

I'll bet if you did a poll to see if anyone on TP had a serious battery malfunction, there'd be no response, but a poll to see who'd missed shots because they ran out of battery power would yield a fairly high number.
 
I don't understand people who spend over £1000 on a camera and then try and save £20-30 on a non-original battery.
If your "replacement" battery leaks and wrecks the inside of your camera, or overheats and melts, how does your warranty apply?
For me, the best spare is the Canon original.
Can't get an original Canon lp-e6.
 
The risks with batteries are a little higher though aren't they? Cards and lenses may fail but are rather unlikely to damage the camera in the process. A cheap tat battery stands a much higher chance of leaking and causing significant damage to the camera.

Each to their own of course and if some find any perceived risk acceptable then fair enough, I just personally feel it's a false economy as even £50-60 for a Canon battery is negligible compared to the cost of the camera itself and photography gear in general.

And what about a good quality battery, like Duracell. Are they dangerous too?

My Duracells perform much better than the original canon battery and cost a third of a canon brand. Just remember that Canon don't manufacture batteries, Duracell do, so I know who I'd trust.
 
And on a risk / benefit analysis, how does this pan out then?

Risk when using 3rd part batteries - perceived risk of battery damaging camera but no evidence it ever happened

Risk of buying fewer OEM batteries (same budget) - running out of battery power when shooting, genuine risk encountered often.
I must confess to formerly using "Brand X" batteries in (previously) a Canon G series compact and currently in my Sony NEX.
The third party battery in the Canon G initially seemed fine, with the same capacity and performance as the OEM Canon.
However, after about 18 months - 2years of not particularly hard use, the 3rd party battery simply packed up and would no longer accept a charge, whereas the Canon OEM battery was still performing fine when I sold the camera.
The 3rd party battery (from a well known accessories shop) in my Sony NEX 5N lasts about 2/3 of the time the OEM battery does, but claims to have the same mA/hr capacity.
I also anticipate it's early demise, although so far (after about 2 years) it's performance seems consistent, just lower capacity than the OEM.
It was the above factors that made me decide to stick to Canon batteries for my 6D, and 70D and when I bought my 6D I was fortunate to find a deal which included a free spare OEM Canon LP-E6.

Can't get an original Canon lp-e6.
Which part of planet Zog do you live on?


And what about a good quality battery, like Duracell. Are they dangerous too?

My Duracells perform much better than the original canon battery and cost a third of a canon brand. Just remember that Canon don't manufacture batteries, Duracell do, so I know who I'd trust.
You're lucky compared to my experiences noted above.

I think it just as unlikely that Duracell actually MAKE the cells that go into their batteries than Canon do.
They most likely all originate from some giant factory in China, and are then graded and sorted for particular brand manufacturers to package.

Don't forget there is more to a camera battery than just the cells.
There is also a monitoring chip which keeps track of the state of charge and the temperature of the pack.
With 3rd party batteries, even with a "chip", you don't necessarily get the same information as with the OEM device.
 
On the note of third party can original batteries. I have a canon one (that came with the camera) for my 500D that packed up and refused to charge when I left it for too long and I think it died of too low voltage. Whereas another battery (third party) which was also in the camera in the grip at the time survived... Personally I don't see a problem with third party ones, not encountered or heard them exploding or anything bad
 
I must confess to formerly using "Brand X" batteries in (previously) a Canon G series compact and currently in my Sony NEX.
The third party battery in the Canon G initially seemed fine, with the same capacity and performance as the OEM Canon.
However, after about 18 months - 2years of not particularly hard use, the 3rd party battery simply packed up and would no longer accept a charge, whereas the Canon OEM battery was still performing fine when I sold the camera.
The 3rd party battery (from a well known accessories shop) in my Sony NEX 5N lasts about 2/3 of the time the OEM battery does, but claims to have the same mA/hr capacity.
I also anticipate it's early demise, although so far (after about 2 years) it's performance seems consistent, just lower capacity than the OEM.
It was the above factors that made me decide to stick to Canon batteries for my 6D, and 70D and when I bought my 6D I was fortunate to find a deal which included a free spare OEM Canon LP-E6.


Which part of planet Zog do you live on?



You're lucky compared to my experiences noted above.

I think it just as unlikely that Duracell actually MAKE the cells that go into their batteries than Canon do.
They most likely all originate from some giant factory in China, and are then graded and sorted for particular brand manufacturers to package.

Don't forget there is more to a camera battery than just the cells.
There is also a monitoring chip which keeps track of the state of charge and the temperature of the pack.
With 3rd party batteries, even with a "chip", you don't necessarily get the same information as with the OEM device.
My Canon and 3rd party batteries number well into double figures now over 13 years and 7DSLRs. So I possibly have more meaningful data than your single failure. ;)
 
Brian G said
Which part of planet Zog do you live on?

I actually reside on a part of Goz but that's beside the point.. Apparently the el-p6 is replaced by the n version which you then have to buy a new charger for.
 
You're lucky compared to my experiences noted above.

I think it just as unlikely that Duracell actually MAKE the cells that go into their batteries than Canon do.
They most likely all originate from some giant factory in China, and are then graded and sorted for particular brand manufacturers to package.

Don't forget there is more to a camera battery than just the cells.
There is also a monitoring chip which keeps track of the state of charge and the temperature of the pack.
With 3rd party batteries, even with a "chip", you don't necessarily get the same information as with the OEM device.

Im in the business of laptop batteries so I'm well aware that the cells are probably manufactured elsewhere, but Duracell will use high grade Japanese/Korean cells, not cheap Chinese cells which are usually found in the very cheap batteries usually sold on eBay and the likes. I'm also well aware that there is more to a battery than just the cells.

I certainly would never purchase a cheap no name brand (or a brand that I had never heard of) for my camera, I've seen what can happen to cheap laptop batteries.

Duracell are reputable and have been around for donkeys years, Why wouldn't you trust them.
 
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Do any 6D owners find that this camera tends to under expose if you go by the camera meter.o_O:confused:
 
That,s what i found when i messed around this morning for a while with my sekonic L308s to check the difference to the camera meter.
Not really a big problem though as i was adding in 2/3rd of a stop more & the exposure looked fine then,love the camera.:)
 
Do any 6D owners find that this camera tends to under expose if you go by the camera meter.o_O:confused:
I tend to set +1/3 - +2/3 with all my Canons as a matter of course. They have a habit of exposing to protect highlight detail.
 
I kinda thought that most of them do,not a big problem though.:)
 
I'm soooooo excited! Just recieved my 6D in the post and I can finally join the 6D owners thread.
 
You will love the camera.:)
 
Do any 6D owners find that this camera tends to under expose if you go by the camera meter.o_O:confused:

All the cameras I have had seem to do this. My current 6D, EM1 & RX100 iii all seem to under expose and I end up compensating in lightroom.

I think it is because you can recover details in shadow but you can't recover blown highlights, so they err on the dark side.
 
Every Canon camera I've owned under exposes. Generally 1/2 stop compensates. There was some discussion a few years ago on another forum about this. The general consensus was ( not confirmed by Canon by the way) this was to protect the highlights in JPEG files.
 
Hi, I'm looking at upgrading my 7D for the 6D to keep as my spare and camera for travel to compliment my 5D iii.
Just wondered what the general opinion is about this camera? I've read reviews and specs, it does lack compared to other brands in this range, but I'm hoping what it lacks in things like focus points, FPS and megapixels it makes up in quality over my 7D!

So I thought I'd ask here to see what you guys and gals make of it? Good and bad :)
 
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I have a 6D as a second backup to my 5D3. It works well. Yes there are some drawbacks and these tend to be related to what you want to use it for , but in general, considering the price compared to the 5D3 it's a good camera. WiFi is useful if you need to shoot tethered , without the cable. Use an external hub as the internal one in the camera takes ages to initialize. ( The instruction on this arn't great but it works well enough ) Video is more than acceptable provided you are careful. I've used it on a number of occasions as a second camera with no problems. Lack of headphone socket is a minor inconvenience.

Limited focusing zones could cause some people difficulty, but it's simply needs you to change your technique a bit. It has the same number as most of my previous Canons. FPS no big deal unless you need that for specialist applications. Don't recall ever seeing a buffer full message. Picture quality almost identical to the 5D3 for most occasions.

But to be honest, unless you really need two full frame cameras I think your 7D would still make an good second camera
 
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